Moses’ Most Daring Request
Explore how Moses disagreed with God, challenged him and lived on to tell the story!
Explore how Moses disagreed with God, challenged him and lived on to tell the story!
Time to read: 7 minutes.
There is a remarkable tension hidden in the story of Israel’s journey from Sinai. God promises to bring His people to the land He has prepared for them. He will protect them, defeat their enemies, and provide supernatural guidance. Yet Moses eventually says, in effect, “That is not enough.”
What could possibly be missing?
The answer lies in a fascinating connection between Exod 23, Exod 33, and Exod 34. God had promised to send an angel before Israel, but with a frightening warning: “Do not rebel against him, for he will not pardon your transgression” (Exod 23:21). After Israel’s terrible sin with the golden calf, Moses understood the problem more clearly than ever.
Israel needed more than guidance. They needed forgiveness.
And so Moses made an astonishing request. He asked YHWH Himself to go with them.
Before the golden calf ever appeared, God told Israel:
“Behold, I send an angel before you, to guard you on the way and to bring you to the place that I have prepared” (Exod 23:20).
The promise sounds wonderfully reassuring. Yet the next verse changes the atmosphere:
“Pay careful attention to him and obey his voice; do not rebel against him, for he will not pardon your transgression, for My name is in him” (Exod 23:21).
The Hebrew is especially strong: לֹא יִשָּׂא לְפִשְׁעֲכֶם (lo yissa lefishakhem), literally, “he will not bear/pardon your transgression.” The text does not necessarily mean that this angel is metaphysically incapable of forgiveness. It tells Israel that he will not pardon their rebellion.
That distinction matters.
The angel carries extraordinary divine authority. God even says, “My name is in him.” Israel must obey his voice because resistance to him amounts to resistance against God.
There is only one problem. What happens when the people inevitably rebel?
Exodus does not leave us wondering for long.
While Moses is on Sinai, Israel makes the golden calf. The people who had heard God’s voice, witnessed the plagues, crossed the sea, and entered covenant with YHWH descend into idolatry with shocking speed.
God calls them עַם קְשֵׁה־עֹרֶף (am qesheh-oref), a “stiff-necked people” (Exod 32:9).
After Moses intercedes and Israel escapes destruction, God tells them to continue toward the Promised Land. He will even send an angel ahead of them.
But something has changed.
God says,
“I will not go up among you, lest I consume you on the way, for you are a stiff-necked people” (Exod 33:3).
This is important. God’s absence is not simply punishment. His holy presence is itself dangerous to sinful Israel.
Israel can apparently have the land, victory, protection, and angelic guidance without God personally dwelling in their midst.
Moses refuses the offer.
“If Your presence does not go with us, do not bring us up from here” (Exod 33:15).
For Moses, the Promised Land without the presence of God is no longer truly the Promised Land.
Moses’ request does not appear suddenly. Just beforehand he prays,
“Show me now Your ways, that I may know You” (Exod 33:13).
He does not merely want God to solve Israel’s problem. He wants to understand the God with whom he is dealing.
God answers, “My presence will go with you” (Exod 33:14). The Hebrew uses פָּנַי (panai), literally “My face/presence.” Moses then asks for something even greater: “Please show me Your glory” (Exod 33:18).
God hides Moses in the cleft of the rock and allows him an extraordinary encounter. Yet what Moses receives is more than a visual manifestation. God reveals His character.
“The LORD, the LORD, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness” (Exod 34:6).
Then comes the crucial phrase: He is a God “forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin” (Exod 34:7).
Notice what has happened.
In Exod 23, the angel “will not pardon your transgression.”
In Exod 34, YHWH declares that He “forgives iniquity and transgression and sin.”
Moses has found the heart of his argument.
Moses immediately bows to the ground and responds:
“If now I have found favor in Your sight, O Lord, please let the Lord go in our midst, for it is a stiff-necked people, and pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us for Your inheritance” (Exod 34:9).
This is one of the most daring prayers in the Torah.
We might expect Moses to say, “Please go with us even though we are stiff-necked.”
Some translations understandably render it that way. Yet the Hebrew particle כִּי (ki) naturally allows the sense of “for” or “because.” The wording therefore permits a startling thought:
Go with us precisely because we are stiff-necked.
Moses takes the very characteristic that threatens Israel’s survival and turns it into an argument for God’s presence.
He is saying that sin matters. God’s declaration in Exod 34:6-7 holds mercy and justice together. The same God who forgives also refuses to treat guilt as meaningless.
Moses’ argument is subtler.
“You know what these people are like. I know what they are like. If they are going to survive this journey, they need the presence of the One who is merciful, gracious, patient, and forgiving.”
Israel’s weakness becomes the reason they cannot live without YHWH.
This helps us understand why Moses dares to speak to God so boldly.
He has already done it before.
When God threatens Israel after the golden calf, Moses stands between divine judgment and the people. He appeals to God’s promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Exod 32:11-14). Then he goes even further:
“If You will forgive their sin… but if not, please blot me out of Your book” (Exod 32:32).
This is intercession at enormous personal cost.
Moses resembles Abraham standing before God on behalf of Sodom: “Shall not the Judge of all the earth do what is just?” (Gen 18:25). Neither man treats God casually. Their boldness grows from knowing Him.
Biblical faith sometimes looks surprisingly argumentative.
Abraham pleads. Jacob wrestles. Moses refuses to let Israel continue without God.
Faith is not always silent submission. Sometimes genuine faith clings to what God has revealed about Himself and dares to ask Him to act consistently with His own character.
Moses understood something Israel itself was only beginning to learn.
Their greatest danger was not Egypt, hostile nations, hunger, thirst, or the wilderness.
Their greatest danger was themselves.
What benefit would supernatural guidance be if their sin destroyed them along the way? What benefit would reaching Canaan accomplish if they arrived without the presence of the God who made them His people?
Israel needed a God who could dwell among sinners without surrendering His holiness, who could judge evil without abandoning His covenant, and who could forgive people who repeatedly failed Him.
That is precisely the God Moses encounters in the cleft of the rock.
This encounter also gives Israel’s calling as a “kingdom of priests” (Exod 19:6) a deeper dimension. Israel would display God’s character to the nations by becoming a nation of people who sometimes failed.
They would testify to a God who remains faithful and disciplines His people; He forgives their sin and continues His covenant purposes through grace.
A Jewish story captures something of Moses’ audacity.
A rabbi who deeply loved his people once prayed:
“HaShem, You are righteous, while we continually stumble. Yet Your mercy is great. So let us make a deal. We will give You all our sins, and You give us all Your forgiveness.”
Then, as though anticipating God’s objection, he added:
“But HaShem, think carefully before refusing. If we had no sins, what would You do with all that forgiveness?”
There is humor here, of course, but also serious theology.
This does not make sin acceptable. It makes grace astonishing.
Moses does not ask God to accompany Israel because they deserve His presence. He asks God to accompany them because they desperately need it. Their stiff necks are not grounds for boasting. They are grounds for dependence.
That may be the deepest lesson of the story. The people of God have survived because they needed much forgiveness. They survived because the God who walked with them revealed Himself as “merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love.”
The wilderness requires more than an angel who shows the way.
It requires the presence of a God who forgives.
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Comments (52)
Lord, You are the God who is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness.
Truly my soul finds rest in You, for You keep me in perfect peace because I trust in You. You make firm my steps; and even though I may stumble, I will not fall, for You, my Lord, uphold me with Your right hand.
You are my God, my refuge, my strength, and my ever-present help in trouble. You are my Rock, my fortress, and my deliverer, in whom I take refuge. You are my shield, the horn of my salvation, my stronghold, and my victorious Savior who has overcome the world.
Be exalted, O God, above the heavens!
Let Your glory be over all the earth!
And now, Lord, go with me today, as You went with Moses, and remain in my midst, as You remained with Israel. Teach me to walk in Your ways, and let Your presence be what I seek above all else.
Yeshua HaMashiach, Amen
Amen
God asked Moses to tell Pharaoh -"Israel is my son, let him go to worship me"
This reminds us that God sees the infant nation of Israel as "a child" being delivered from the "womb" where he was formed, and Moses was in the role of a father to a son. everything in this story relates to the conversation between the father and God about the child as the child grows up in rebellion and disobedience while the father prays for his child and intercedes for him.
IF we wish to study the entire life journey of the singular character of the nation of Israel we will see that it is quite similar to our own life journey both of which struggle to follow the Divine pattern that Jesus lived to perfection.
At various times in the life of Israel leadership and oversite was represented by Moses during the law stage, while the capability to worship was built. then born again at Jordan after rebelliousness had died of, on to kingdom stage where each king represents the various conditions of our heart in adulthood. On to elderly decline and eventually destruction of the physical while Jesus saved the soul of Israel.
Thank you for this thoughtful reflection. Scripture presents Israel’s story as the journey of God’s son: “Israel is my firstborn son” (Exod 4:22), and “Out of Egypt I called my son” (Hos 11:1). Israel’s failures can illuminate our struggle to trust and obey God, while Jesus embodies faithful sonship perfectly (Matt 2:15).
Still, we should distinguish biblical statements from spiritual analogies. The text identifies God, not Moses, as Israel’s Father. Moses serves as mediator and intercessor, and in Num 11:12 he says that he did not conceive or give birth to the people. Likewise, crossing the Jordan may picture a new beginning, but Scripture does not call it being “born again.” Nor does Jesus save Israel’s “soul” while discarding its physical existence. He is Israel’s Messiah, fulfills Israel’s calling, saves Jews and Gentiles, and remains faithful to God’s covenant purposes. Your pattern is fruitful when held alongside these distinctions.
I thank you, Eli, for your teaching again. Ex. 23, 33, 34. I also read the verses in Hebrew. I looked in my Finnish-Hebrew-Finnish dictionary and compared it with English and Finnish translations. Things became more understandable. God's grace is abundant.
Arvi Meklin
It is indeed!
Thank you so much Dr Eli, it’s always a blessing reading your pieces. A question, should there have been a NOT in this sentence? «Of course, he is saying that sin does not matter.»
Thank you! I think I fixed it. Please, review if it makes sense now.
Dr. Eli, I am so touched by the way you explained this story. I am in tears because I get to know deeper who God truly is. I have read this story a number of times and even read some commentaries, but you wonderfully opened my eyes to the steadfast love of God. Thank you so much.
Daisy, may our glorious God be praised and exulted! Thank you for writing to encourage me and my team!
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This is really good. Its always been grace through faith and not works.
Exactly right.
Many words of thanks and blessings going out to you for posting another inspiring and truthful rendition of this!! I have heard of this so many times throughout my life but never as wonderful as this. Our Lord has truly placed His blessings upon you which has also enabled you to spread His word and become a blessing to all!!
Candace thank you so much for your support!
God has blessed me with this study.
God bless you for sharing.
Thank you Desley
So happy to hear!
Dr Eli,God Almighty situates you and filled you with this open mystery as apostle Paul called it. You're a blessing to our generation. Many thanks
I am here to serve, my brother.
Just finished watching Carmen Joy Imes and Michael Heiser on YouTube discussing bearing “God‘s name…”. Your teaching dovetailed beautifully and wonderfully thank you so much for helping me to understand what it means to BEAR God‘s name.
Blessings, Jeffrey. It was a big loss when Michael Heiser did. But we all know when God must have had a reason for it.
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